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when the fbi, yes, worked on crime, but under hoover the fbi worked on politics, too. the agency's efforts in the latter undermined everything the nation needed from the fbi on the former. that's why congress ordered reforms for the fbi after watergate. investigating crime while also secretly playing politics is a combination with a bad outcome. that's one of the things we learned from the scandal of the nixon administration and its downfall, but also from decades watching j. edgar hoover operate. last week we learned general david petraeus had an affair. the fbi discovered that affair over the summer while it was looking into something else. those revelations led to protest from members of congress that they had not been told sooner than last week, along with everyone else. they wanted to be notified about this. ranking democrat on the intelligence committee dianne feinstein says the fbi should have told congress, bipartisan, republican, homeland security committee calms alerting congress in an instance like this the fbi's obligation. lawmakers are sure to demand answ
when the fbi, yes, worked on crime, but under hoover the fbi worked on politics, too. the agency's efforts in the latter undermined everything the nation needed from the fbi on the former. that's why congress ordered reforms for the fbi after watergate. investigating crime while also secretly playing politics is a combination with a bad outcome. that's one of the things we learned from the scandal of the nixon administration and its downfall, but also from decades watching j. edgar hoover...
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to the fbi she communicates with a friend who she meets at a fbi commune a event. hey do you remember me, we were in touch can you look at somebody to look at this. he brings her to the cyber squd and they say where is this going to lead not knowing it was going of going to lead to the general's and so on. that's who jill kelly in the context of this case. who she is in the larger world is a tampa socialite married to a prominent although much lower profile and quiet radiologist from the moffett cancer center who was in the military community. she was on the social roster, she was on the socom that's special operations command social roster. she jumped with the parajumpers in a tan done jump. she attended the admiral's parties and affairs and so on. that's who she is in that context. >> rose: so she went to the cyber whatever the name was and then they began to look at her e-mails and who she received e-mails from and from that they found e-mails having to do with general john allen. >> right one of the ways you do a case, all right let's see who is sending the har
to the fbi she communicates with a friend who she meets at a fbi commune a event. hey do you remember me, we were in touch can you look at somebody to look at this. he brings her to the cyber squd and they say where is this going to lead not knowing it was going of going to lead to the general's and so on. that's who jill kelly in the context of this case. who she is in the larger world is a tampa socialite married to a prominent although much lower profile and quiet radiologist from the...
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kelley went to the fbi with the anonymous threatening e-mails. agents traced those to paula broadwell and uncovered her affair with petraeus. one defense official described the e-mails between general allen and kelley as flirtatious. another official tells cbs news, some of the e-mails were more than sexy exchanges and may have crossed the line. general allen said he did nothing wrong but for now the capitol hill hearings on his promotion are delayed. >> at request of the secretary of defense, the president has put on hold the promotion. >> general allen and petraeus wrote letters for a custody battle for her sister and more is wanted on the attack in benghazi, libya. >> i think it is imperative that general petraeus come and testify. >> reporter: some congressional leaders have also called for a joint house-senate probe into the petraeus scandal. the white house said the president was surprised to hear about the petraeus investigation and that the president has faith in general allen and thinks highly of his work in afghanistan. in washington, d
kelley went to the fbi with the anonymous threatening e-mails. agents traced those to paula broadwell and uncovered her affair with petraeus. one defense official described the e-mails between general allen and kelley as flirtatious. another official tells cbs news, some of the e-mails were more than sexy exchanges and may have crossed the line. general allen said he did nothing wrong but for now the capitol hill hearings on his promotion are delayed. >> at request of the secretary of...
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fbi failure. the fbi investigated the petraeus affair beginning with fears the cia's director's e-mail had been hacked at the beginning of the summer. yet lawmakers and the president were not told about it for six months, until after the election. under growing pressure and criticism, the fbi will be testifying on its role in the scandal. they'll go behind closed doors with members of the house intelligence committee demanding to who knew what and when they knew it. suzanne kelly. what are lawmakers going to find out? >> well, they're going to have some meetings tomorrow on the hill that are going to come before hearings open thursday. and michael morell, acting director of the cia and sean joyce will be involved in these meetings. they'll be asked a lot of questions about what they knew about the petraeus investigation, when they knew it, and why they didn't come forward. a couple things at play here, erin. one is, keep in mind, the fbi itself has said very little about this case so far. publicly
fbi failure. the fbi investigated the petraeus affair beginning with fears the cia's director's e-mail had been hacked at the beginning of the summer. yet lawmakers and the president were not told about it for six months, until after the election. under growing pressure and criticism, the fbi will be testifying on its role in the scandal. they'll go behind closed doors with members of the house intelligence committee demanding to who knew what and when they knew it. suzanne kelly. what are...
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this is not the fbi operational side but the political side, the real question will be what did the fbi tell the attorney general and what was justice's call on what to do with that information. and that question hasn't really surfaced yet but when it does it will certainly royal. >> sharyl atkinson reported on cbs this morning there are members of congress now demanding a joint committee to investigate this. if there are enough members of on congress hungry to do that that will likely hospital which will mean a full on colonoscopy on this store. there are so many details to be learned. >> rose: david, in cases like this when we do these looking back journalists do and looking who said what when, there are always questions that come up like this. who should have when they first heard this, said the president has to know this? >> well, i think john raised this issue. as it comes up, the chain of command and the fbi, the fbi embarked into the inquiry of the cia director. if i were the director, i would properly go to the person i work for and that's the attorney general holder and give hi
this is not the fbi operational side but the political side, the real question will be what did the fbi tell the attorney general and what was justice's call on what to do with that information. and that question hasn't really surfaced yet but when it does it will certainly royal. >> sharyl atkinson reported on cbs this morning there are members of congress now demanding a joint committee to investigate this. if there are enough members of on congress hungry to do that that will likely...
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months before the fbi was brought on to the case. the white house is backing general allen, officials say his nomination to nato could be derailed, if he can't get past the controversy of being swept up in this scandal. brian? >> andrea mitchell starting us off from washington tonight. andrea, thanks. >>> jill kelley's name has come up in connection with two of this nation's top commanders. more on her story tonight from nbc's kristen welker. >> mrs. kelley, how are you doing? >> reporter: jill kelley was well known in social circles around tampa, long before she became fodder for the tabloids of new york. she and her husband threw lavish parties at their ten-bedroom home that sold for $1.5 million in 2004. black tie, top notch catering, a couple about town. >> jill is always smiling, vivacious. >> reporter: aaron publishes tampa bay magazine that features fancy parties and ads for high end merchandise. the kelley's frequented its pages. >> there was always a bevy of people surrounding them. it seemed like no matter where they went,
months before the fbi was brought on to the case. the white house is backing general allen, officials say his nomination to nato could be derailed, if he can't get past the controversy of being swept up in this scandal. brian? >> andrea mitchell starting us off from washington tonight. andrea, thanks. >>> jill kelley's name has come up in connection with two of this nation's top commanders. more on her story tonight from nbc's kristen welker. >> mrs. kelley, how are you...
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was an fbi agent. i worked as a federal prosecutor the report directly to the department ofjustice. they work for the department justice. the idea you didot know about it, i don't understand that. lou: is it even imaginable that the head of the fbi and te attorney general would not have some considerable discussion about surveillance of the hed of the country's foremost spy agency? we will come right back with the case for an answer that question. at least the lou: fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff. you think we will be able to get a solution, these things, the president will stand up and leave in the two partiesill come together, embrace higher taxes and less spending? >> yes, i do. i really beliive in this country. labeling the country the brightest spot in the world two weeks ago. something has to be done, this is his moment to leave. >> i hope you are right. lou: do you agree or just hoping? >> i am in the hoping cegory. i have not seen any indication in that, any indication of embracing. neil: saying rep
was an fbi agent. i worked as a federal prosecutor the report directly to the department ofjustice. they work for the department justice. the idea you didot know about it, i don't understand that. lou: is it even imaginable that the head of the fbi and te attorney general would not have some considerable discussion about surveillance of the hed of the country's foremost spy agency? we will come right back with the case for an answer that question. at least the lou: fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff....
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the fbi. as i understand it they have protocols in place for when the notify the legislative and executive branches of investigations. the fbi is the place to go in terms of explanation the protocols they follow. i would refer, that said earlier, to policies in place at the fbi for how they deal with notifications investigations. lou: as you saw and heard, a frustrating day for the white house press corps. the president spokesman however did not shy away from a question on this petraeus would testify in front of congress on benghazi. made it clear the administration is firmly supportive of petraeus' successor. he will be facing questions that are still lingering over if the cia refused requests for help on the ground on september 11 and why three days after that attack then director petraeus but in the attack in the flash mob incited by childish, amateurish, less than 14 minutes long youtube video. >> is up to congress to make decisions of who is called to testify. but the president is confide
the fbi. as i understand it they have protocols in place for when the notify the legislative and executive branches of investigations. the fbi is the place to go in terms of explanation the protocols they follow. i would refer, that said earlier, to policies in place at the fbi for how they deal with notifications investigations. lou: as you saw and heard, a frustrating day for the white house press corps. the president spokesman however did not shy away from a question on this petraeus would...
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not for the fbi. so the fbi still has some explaining to do in my mind. >> eliot: why the distinction if there is a legitimate reason or maybe the facts are different between the way general petraeus has offered his resignation and the president expressing support for general allen. is there a reason for that distinction that you can discern? >> absolutely. first off general allen's behavior flirting -- many things are against the military code of justice but flirting isn't. that being said, i can absolutely understand the secretary's actions where general allen is concerned at this point. the real question -- what's happening is general allen was up, as you said, to take over as nato's supreme allied commander. that's a senate-confirmed position. any time that there is an investigation, regardless of whether it has any merit or not that investigation is always concluded before you put somebody in front of the senate committee for them to go ahead and confirm or not confirm the person. so in this case
not for the fbi. so the fbi still has some explaining to do in my mind. >> eliot: why the distinction if there is a legitimate reason or maybe the facts are different between the way general petraeus has offered his resignation and the president expressing support for general allen. is there a reason for that distinction that you can discern? >> absolutely. first off general allen's behavior flirting -- many things are against the military code of justice but flirting isn't. that...
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i think really, too, the focus tomorrow is going to be on the fbi and the fbi's deputy director, sean joyce, is going to have some hearings. as you heard right at the top of the show, piers, members of congress are very upset that they weren't notified about this. was there a national security risk, if there was, they should have been notified. if there wasn't a national security risk, why did the fbi go to james clapper, the director of national intelligence, on the night of the election. so maybe the president will put some of those things to rest tomorrow. but the fbi really hasn't come out and said much at all so a lot of the information that's been coming out about this case has been through leaks and anonymous sources. >> i think the reason the fbi is not saying anything is because this is going to be deeply embarrassing when we get to the bottom of it. thank you both very much. >>> i want to turn to a member of general petraeus' inner circle, his former spokesman, colonel steve boylan. colonel, thank you for joining me. when did you last speak to david petraeus? >> i spoke with
i think really, too, the focus tomorrow is going to be on the fbi and the fbi's deputy director, sean joyce, is going to have some hearings. as you heard right at the top of the show, piers, members of congress are very upset that they weren't notified about this. was there a national security risk, if there was, they should have been notified. if there wasn't a national security risk, why did the fbi go to james clapper, the director of national intelligence, on the night of the election. so...
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lawmakers were set to be briefed by the fbi today on capitol hill. they have a lot of questions about all of this. why did no one inform congress or the white house that the director of the cia was currently under investigation. big question mark over that. doug, what's the latest on this today? >> developments continue to come in fast and furiously. catherine herridge is reporting some key lawmakers are openly questioning the veracity of david petraeus' testimony when he said the attack was a flash mob. and a demonstration that spun out of control. with that explanation overwhelmingly rejected many on the hill say it's vital that petraeus testify. >> i would like to hear from him within the next week or so. there is so much to learn. he has just gotten back from a trip over there. the american people have a right to know. >> reporter: investigators wants to explore whether he may have molded his briefing to the white house narrative to keep them from exposing his affair. martha: doug, obviously a lot of people on the hill as we just saw senator barr
lawmakers were set to be briefed by the fbi today on capitol hill. they have a lot of questions about all of this. why did no one inform congress or the white house that the director of the cia was currently under investigation. big question mark over that. doug, what's the latest on this today? >> developments continue to come in fast and furiously. catherine herridge is reporting some key lawmakers are openly questioning the veracity of david petraeus' testimony when he said the attack...
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remember her fbi friend that started the investigation? turns out he was also the person who called house majority leader eric cantor and told him what he knew. one more character connecting petraeus and allen in this messy web, jill's twin sister natalie, just weeks ago both generals wrote letters in support of natalie in a custody battle over her four-year-old son. "the washington post" is now reporting according to advisers close to petraeus, petraeus only resigned after national intelligence director james clapper told him to do so. joining me now, spencer ackerman, senior writer for "wired" who writes for their national security blog, the danger room, and nbc's richard wolffe. richard, i don't know, i don't know much about waging war. i do know a little bit about living life. and these generals are writing absolutely crazy letters which i don't have time to read to a judge in a custody battle. >> right. >> a woman who has lost custody of her son, and in this country it is not easy for women to lose custody of children in these situati
remember her fbi friend that started the investigation? turns out he was also the person who called house majority leader eric cantor and told him what he knew. one more character connecting petraeus and allen in this messy web, jill's twin sister natalie, just weeks ago both generals wrote letters in support of natalie in a custody battle over her four-year-old son. "the washington post" is now reporting according to advisers close to petraeus, petraeus only resigned after national...
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now the fbi reportedly stepped up its efforts to find out how broadwell obtained the classified information found on her computer. and right there, is visuals of the other woman, jill kelly. who many just describe as, military fund raiser. >> right. quick point here. come on now, paula was in the window drinking a glass of wine. has better lighting than we do now, with the world media kind of watching her now. seems slightly staged. just saying. oh, well. sure she has a pr crew doing their thing now. as for the other woman in the scandal though she has not been accused of any wrongdoing, jill kelly has now hired a top washington criminal defense lawyer. >> she also hired a publicist. the same one who represented. monica lewinsky. >> ah. >> abc's chief investigative correspondent, brian ross, set out to learn how she forged such a close relationship with the generals. >> reporter: jill kelly spent the day at her home in tampa not answering questions. in the background a television could be seen with news coverage of the peyton place like military sex scandal that focused attention on who she
now the fbi reportedly stepped up its efforts to find out how broadwell obtained the classified information found on her computer. and right there, is visuals of the other woman, jill kelly. who many just describe as, military fund raiser. >> right. quick point here. come on now, paula was in the window drinking a glass of wine. has better lighting than we do now, with the world media kind of watching her now. seems slightly staged. just saying. oh, well. sure she has a pr crew doing...
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an official told abc news, the fbi uncovered hundred if not thousand of e-mails between david petraeus and his biograph biographer, paula broadwell. many of them salacious in nature. earlier this summer, jill kelley received anonymous threat tenning e-mails the fbi traced to broadwell's computer. there they discovered evidence of her affair with petraeus. general allen received one e-mail traced to broadwell that claimed jill kelley was a seductress. the president was sur pried when he heard of the petraeus s situation last week. rob, paula, back to you. >> all right, thank you, kiren. >>> we are learning much more about the tampa socialite at the center of this scandal. jill kelley has a special license plate, designating her as an honorary consul. title given by korean embassy. but is carries no official responsibilities. nor does it grant any immunities or even pay a sty penned. though she has not been accused of any wrongdoing just yet. kelley hired a,000 top criminal defense attorney and signed on with a publicist. the same one hired by, yeah, wait for it. monica lewinsky. interes
an official told abc news, the fbi uncovered hundred if not thousand of e-mails between david petraeus and his biograph biographer, paula broadwell. many of them salacious in nature. earlier this summer, jill kelley received anonymous threat tenning e-mails the fbi traced to broadwell's computer. there they discovered evidence of her affair with petraeus. general allen received one e-mail traced to broadwell that claimed jill kelley was a seductress. the president was sur pried when he heard of...
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between themmis complicated: involving the fbi, cia, ppntagon, the white houseeand congress. "i am puzzled by much of what has occurred in to an affair with broadwell, which amm to light when the fbi investigated what one u-s official has described ass "jealous" emails broadwell sent to elley. now, general allen is under investigation for allegedly sending to kelley email messages one defense official escrrbed as "flirtatiius." defense officials say authorities are pages of documents. "it - really makes yoo wonderrhow he it, and the motivation to do o - that from afar." the news about allen--which the national security council spooesman says president obama learned about the same day petraeus resigned-- has put allen's nominntion to be nato's supreme allied commander on hold..allen denies any wrongdoing and &premains on duty in afghanistan. "the presidentt has great confidence ii the military, great coofidence in the commander, and will continue to have that confidence." a defenss official tells cnn there's a defense department ty" the investigation into allennis connected to
between themmis complicated: involving the fbi, cia, ppntagon, the white houseeand congress. "i am puzzled by much of what has occurred in to an affair with broadwell, which amm to light when the fbi investigated what one u-s official has described ass "jealous" emails broadwell sent to elley. now, general allen is under investigation for allegedly sending to kelley email messages one defense official escrrbed as "flirtatiius." defense officials say authorities are...
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probably should be prepared to answer some tough questions about general petraeus and allen and the fbi investigation as well as libya, not to mention the fiscal cliff and we're learning more about the woman who knew both general, tampa socialite jill kelley. a senior defense official says the e-mails between the two were more than just calling one another sweetheart, they were flirtatious and unprofessional. both of them wrote letters vouching for her sister in a child custody case and she made this phone call claiming she had some sort of diplomatic status which she does not. >> i am an honorary consul-general so i have unveilability so i should -- they should not be going across my property. but that's against the law to cross my mrort. um, it's involable. >> "the washington post" says there is a new focus on sensitive information in her possession. multiple u.s. officials have insisted to nbc news there was no security breach. let me bring in major garrett, white house reporter and tim carney for "the shington examiner." good morning to both of you. tim, let me start with you. are y
probably should be prepared to answer some tough questions about general petraeus and allen and the fbi investigation as well as libya, not to mention the fiscal cliff and we're learning more about the woman who knew both general, tampa socialite jill kelley. a senior defense official says the e-mails between the two were more than just calling one another sweetheart, they were flirtatious and unprofessional. both of them wrote letters vouching for her sister in a child custody case and she...
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the fbi traced those e-mails back to paula broadwell's computer where they discovered the evidence of broadwell's affair with david petraeus. but it doesn't stop there. abc news has learned that general allen also received an anonymous e-mail traced to paula broadwell, painting jill kelley as a seductress. a further look by the fbi into kelley's e-mails revealed hundreds between kelley and general allen, 20,000 to 30,000 pages of communications in all. but a source familiar with the e-mails say they contain no evidence of a sexual relationship, something allen supporting what allen said. instead they're described as friendly, perhaps flirtatious but routine mostly about meetings with ambassadors and dinner parties. in one note kelley tells the general she saw him on tv. he responds, "thanks, dear, you're a sweetheart." many e-mails were from kelley to general allen's wife. the two couples were good friends. >> until someone proves otherwise, i believe that he did nothing inappropriate. >> reporter: and today the white house made clear the president still has faith in general allen, bu
the fbi traced those e-mails back to paula broadwell's computer where they discovered the evidence of broadwell's affair with david petraeus. but it doesn't stop there. abc news has learned that general allen also received an anonymous e-mail traced to paula broadwell, painting jill kelley as a seductress. a further look by the fbi into kelley's e-mails revealed hundreds between kelley and general allen, 20,000 to 30,000 pages of communications in all. but a source familiar with the e-mails say...
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sounds like the fbi got ahead of itself, doesn't it? there will be an investigation. >> tons of unanswered questions. let me give you your headline for wednesday. the new york power company who still can't figure out how to restore electricity to new york is losing its leader now. he plans to step down as the ceo at the end of the he. he and several others were the subject of major scrutiny weeks after super storm sandy hit. they have also been slapped with a class action lawsuit. and for some customers, believe it or not, the power is still out. >> the boots on the ground is fine. management needs to go to precious son. >> the guys from out-of-state said this thing was being held together with bubblegum and wire and they were told in '06 a problem could happen. they did nothing. >> governor andrew cuomo has launched an investigation as to how utilities responded to the storm. this is out of mississippi. a massive firen giving this home after a small plane crashed into it. all three people on board were killed. witness said they saw the
sounds like the fbi got ahead of itself, doesn't it? there will be an investigation. >> tons of unanswered questions. let me give you your headline for wednesday. the new york power company who still can't figure out how to restore electricity to new york is losing its leader now. he plans to step down as the ceo at the end of the he. he and several others were the subject of major scrutiny weeks after super storm sandy hit. they have also been slapped with a class action lawsuit. and for...
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and upon receiving broadwell's e-mails, kelley contacted the fbi which began investigating. now, jill kelley also has hired crisis communications expert judy smith. she has worked with monica lewinsky with kobe bryant and with former senator larry craig. and that all has a lot of folks scratching their heads. why would a woman who was the target of a nasty e-mail or two need a reputation fixer? well it turns out that while investigating petraeus, the fbi uncovered 20,000 to 30,000 potentially inappropriate pages of documents mostly e-mails that kelley exchanged with general john allen. and who is general john allen? he is the top u.s. commander in afghanistan and he is the man who's nominated to be the supreme leader of nato. as you can imagine that, nomination was put on hold in light of all of these allegations. for the record, general allen denies any inappropriate relationship with kelley and these e-mails are described as flirtatious. so reaction to this unfolding and unbelievable drama is coming in from all sides a senior official close to general allen said of jill ke
and upon receiving broadwell's e-mails, kelley contacted the fbi which began investigating. now, jill kelley also has hired crisis communications expert judy smith. she has worked with monica lewinsky with kobe bryant and with former senator larry craig. and that all has a lot of folks scratching their heads. why would a woman who was the target of a nasty e-mail or two need a reputation fixer? well it turns out that while investigating petraeus, the fbi uncovered 20,000 to 30,000 potentially...
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an fbi agent to whom kelly turns to for help. he was taken off the case because supervisors felt he was infatuated with kelly. they knew each other before the investigation began. he sent her shirtless photos of himself. there you have it for now.. >> what a tangled web that goes on. >> three oakland police officers that delivered a baby were reunited today with the infant and parents. he is named nolan. officers talking to a clerk at the station. the frantic farther told them his wife was in labor. they couldn't make it to the hospital. one cop pud been a thursday. >> great, wonderful experience. and being a police officer is what i wanted to do. >> the officer that's delivered him received first aid training and n.delivering a baby. knollan is living proof it paid off what. a straight story. >> sandhya patel is here with weather. >> nolan came in with the streak as cross the sky. we fast forwarded this video. there is crisscrossing patterns making caused by trailer kond yensation. this is due to more humidity in the sky. patter
an fbi agent to whom kelly turns to for help. he was taken off the case because supervisors felt he was infatuated with kelly. they knew each other before the investigation began. he sent her shirtless photos of himself. there you have it for now.. >> what a tangled web that goes on. >> three oakland police officers that delivered a baby were reunited today with the infant and parents. he is named nolan. officers talking to a clerk at the station. the frantic farther told them his...
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questions about benghazi, questions about the petraeus thing, how did the fbi, is the president pleased with, seems there's a little pattern here of it seems to take a while for certain information to get to the white house a little bit, how -- what is his reaction to that. so this is his first comments that we're going to hear since the whole david petraeus mess exploded. so obviously that's going to be some of the news. i can tell you the white house folks are not happy that half the press conference will not be about fiscal cliff since that is what is front and center, all these deadlines facing them. the irony is, be andrea, had they done the post-election press conference when traditionally held back in bush and clinton a couple days after the election, there wouldn't have been a question about david petraeus. >> if he had not -- if he held it in chicago the morning after traditionally when this is done. >> or even thursday. >> or even thursday u.s. exactly. >> although by thursday his national security team knew and was about to inform him about the petraeus possible resignation.
questions about benghazi, questions about the petraeus thing, how did the fbi, is the president pleased with, seems there's a little pattern here of it seems to take a while for certain information to get to the white house a little bit, how -- what is his reaction to that. so this is his first comments that we're going to hear since the whole david petraeus mess exploded. so obviously that's going to be some of the news. i can tell you the white house folks are not happy that half the press...